SYNERGY-NET on http://www.wiredbrain.net/ RE: Breeding Faster Ponies: The views of the pony express on the telegraph: Edward B. Fiske, former educational editor of the New York Times wrote the best book on the current problems in education I know about... "Smart Schools, Smart Kids, Why do some schools work?" with assistance from Ernest L. Boyer of the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of teaching. (1991, Touchstone Books, Simon & Schuster, Fiske Futures) Edward B. Fiske argues in this book. . . "the time for tinkering with the current system of public education is over. After a decade of trying to make the system work better by such means as more testing, higher salaries, and tighter curriculums, we must now face up to the fact that anything short of fundamental structural change is futile. . . . . American public schools grew up around an early industrial model that has outlived its usefulness in education as well as in the industry that created it. The renewal of public education in this country requires nothing less than a frontal assault on every aspect of schooling -- the way we run districts, organize classrooms, use time, measure achievement, assign students, relate schools to their surroundings, and hold people accountable. Trying to get more learning out of the current system is like trying to get the Pony Express to compete with the telegraph by breeding faster ponies (Fiske, 1991, p. 14-15)." The impact of the telecommunications revolution new INTERNET WEB, netscape and sun microsystems, technology has put all educational enterprises in the position of the pony express was in when the telegraph replaced their methods of sending messages. Try looking at _learning how to learn_ Joseph Novak and Bob Gowan. Cambridge University Press, ISBN 0-521-31926-9 RE: Action: The action group, a reason for being. What Am I doing? Now is the time to try men's (and women's) peoples souls! During the first 200 years as a nation each generation was better off, better educated, and in many ways freer that the generations in the past. Freedom is a state of mind. (Sufi and Plato, Masons, science and democracy are linked by the belief in true ideas and ideals) Moral: We are in trouble as a society! The average American (or mean or median) are less informed, more illiterate, less prosperous, than their parents. (The median wages in REAL dollars has not moved since 1969, familial income had gone up a little due to more workers - women in the labor force). Why? Bad values! Short tern, commercial, greed, lack of concern for others, selfless, not understanding the interrelationship of all things and all people, prejudice, bigots, closed minds, hate, and other bad values. Good values as Bill Bennet points out are universal and necessary for a working society. Long term, community, hard work, family, beyond self etc (Stephen Covey) Competition from others countries who are simply better organized to provide for high value added jobs than we are. (Reich) They are have better values, are smarter. better educated, more organized, and their minds are freer from false ideas. Values are an economic issue because of Quality. The inability to cooperate is part of an anti-intellectual, anti- science, anti-technology, anti-reality attitude of people in general and my students in particular. A society where 40% believe in UFO,(not only UFO'S but Aliens that take people aboard to study them) para-psychology, astrology, and other false ideas is in trouble. Carl Sagan made a point of belief in Astrology not simply as a harmless hobby but as a symptom of a lack of understanding the roots of science. The old cowboy, macho, Ayn Rand, the hero in history, attitude of Limbaugh and the groups of right, who are basically nay sayers, plus the religious conservative, (Creationism) some small business and old style populist - not that they are wrong but they just don't understand the issue of reason, science, facts and people working together using rational thought to create new ideas. Psychics, sorcerers, talking snakes, Health Cures, demons, mind power, false prophets, crime, illegitimacy, rip offs, swindles by established financial institution, cheating, corruption, etc are part of the Seneca syndrome. Our current decline in the quality of life is another case of when the culture no-longer can provide a working construct (illusion) there is an outbreak of ghost cults. (Oriental religions in the end of the Roman Empire, and The Cult Explosion today) Money mag. reports that 250,000 of the best and brightest are leaving for places with have a better quality of life. Reimann@digex.net suggests that I use a service such as info@world.std.com to set up a "shell" using a Majordomo as a communications link. I don't understand this but will investigate. Delphi has a BBS at !-888-365-4636 Modem or 695-4005 Voice. The idea is that individual interested in ACTION, in doing something about the steady decline in the quality of life work together to do something. (use WP7944 for BBS id) I have been trying to get a class going on INTERNET 101, another class with the GNA (Global Network Academy) on Applied Social Relations, and maybe a Sufi group. We had homepages on a server that went down (and won't get up) A domain on the local commercial server is TOO much, I have written a lot of servers about having a homepage that we can edit from here (FTP or peer-to-peer connections NT type using Windows 95) I have connected to winserve and had NT connections. Looking at the collaboration page: -HTTP://union.ncsa.uiuc.edu/HyperNews/get/WWW/collaboration.html I am impressed with how little I know - There is so many alternative but and I don't have a big UNIX system. (what I have is a 486 PC Window 95 type) I need somewhere students and I can interact like on a LANs (WINS) - and they can work together on projects. I have contacted Netscape and Sun Microsystems about a system for the little user. We do our own stuff, edit homepages, graphics everything. We can ftp to a server. I can pull the pages down using Netscape. (I have mail, web browser, IRC, and other services with PSS in Daytona, bulk mail with MCI) We need a place to work. You can't make any money from us but we do PR to about 30,000 critical people on the net. We do our own registration with search engines. We draw about 3 - 10 visits per hour to your service. We hope to be on the edge of educational reform. We have our class registrared with GNA global network academy (MIT). What I can afford is about $50 a month until I get fees. I can'd get fees unless I have a place on the WEB. I could think about a fee spliting system. The future of interactive groups with SYNERGY.. Moving from the Pony Express ( Fiske book Smart Kids Smart Schools) which is the enclosed classroom with teacher talk and a blackboard - to real innovative active groups working anywhere to anywhere - in real contact.. mutual aid and benefits - How do we get started ?? mud telnet maud.cariboo.bc.ca 4000 206.216.2653 or >206.930.8270 anytime of the day or weekend. John Dewey who remarked (in 1905) that the basic system was in place by 1860 and has the management and social structure of railroads) The new communications deregulation bill will have the greatest impact on education since the founding of public schools and colleges. It offers universal competition for the first time, all markets become open, there are no place for communist style monopolies left. Everything is more internationalized, sky net services from Europe are there, the BBC and Russian services; educational services offered in South Africa, libraries in Rome, shops in Hong Kong. Dewey notes rapid progress of his times. Advances in industrialization, transportation, and communication dictated need to adapt to a continuously and quickly changing environment. Experience and thinking involve connection of relationships. This connection is essential for reasoning to occur. While all thinking results in knowledge, ultimately the value of knowledge is subordinate to its use in thinking. For we live not in a settled and finished world, but in one which is going on, and where our main task is prospective, and where retrospect -- and all knowledge as distinct from thought is retrospect -- is of value in the solidity, security and fertility it affords our dealings with the future (Dewey, 1920, pp. 177-178). The Public School system was set up when Railroads were the dominate social institution. Dewey says that by 1855 they had all the common elements they have today - school boards (elected by Teachers, the newspaper and the local power structure - mostly real estate) superintendents, teacher colleges, teacher journals, textbooks, state set curriculum, tests (a great outbreak after WWI) classrooms, rows of desks, age grades, everything except the blackboard. (They came in the 1890's). They can not be reformed but need shock economics of dealing with the free market of providers of Interactive systems. It's only a question of critical mass - enough systems offering a good enough service - I'm told higher education on the services is growing 10% a month or more. Home schools and small schools become great modern schools. College and schools no longer have a state monopoly over certification. Anyone can take a class anywhere. RE: Best schools in the world: There are some of the best schools in the world in and around NYC. The names are Groton, The Dalton Schools, St. Pauls, Phillips, American Friends, MaryMount, The Japanese school, the International School, other private academies mostly for the rich. Fees run up to $25,000 per year. Then there are the Scarsdales, Marion Conn., Westchester County, Oyster Bay, etc. I really don't know what gives these days. There are also some of the worse schools. Maybe to coin a phase "It's a tale of two cities." You would never know it from the public media or learn it public schools (or maybe even in the Schools of Education) but the America social system is very class structured. The Rich and Super Rich send their children to the best schools, then Harvard, Yale, and other good colleges. In "Who rules America" (Rose) and in Tom Dye's work on the Irony of American Democracy - show that families like the George Walker Bush's - household like his, still maintain a large part of the power (and most of the wealth ) in the society. A easy factor to track is private upper class schools from the Catalina Island school to Phillips Academy in New England and members of boards, social positions (the blue books, who's who etc) Rich suburbs have the best supported schools that pay teachers twice as much for much more pleasant work. In small towns that had a "common" education, High School stunted working class students into under-funded vocational programs, and upper class kids into college prep programs. The work of Coleman, Lipsets, Hunter, Warner, Hunts, and other community studies show the class structure in public education. Social Democrats in Europe would never stand for the way working class people are treated in this country. But then the working class were "foreigners" or "blacks" or "slum dwellers", or Irish, or Mexicans, "them" - not "us". There was never a real labor party in this country to protect the interest of the "working man" because the skilled workmen of the AFL did not feel they had a common cause with the "alien" CIO. Social and ethnic power reinforced a caste system. In fact skilled trades kept out non-family members. The industrial school system was constructed to "Americaize" foreigners. From the 1830's to the 1930's the vast majority of city people were first and second generation immigrants. They were need in the growing factories owned by the WASP (English) and run by German and Scot engineers and foeman, with Eastern European, Italian, Irish, and black workers. The Schools looked and ran like factories. Working class girls were hired to be school teachers as a step into the middle class. Upper and most Middle class girls didn't work in those days - or did social work, or tutor music, or French - or maybe in a Private School. Nursing was also a working class, female and poorly paid trade or profession. Public education benefited from the lack of opportunities for women, these same women now go into much better paid profession, accounting, business, banking, etc. Men taught in High Schools separated neatly by class, never a very "good" job. As the demand grows for skilled (really skilled labor) and at the same time declines for semi and unskilled workers the traditional industrial school can't keep up. This is THE social issue. In the past, until the 1970's, High School graduates went into factories and did quite well. Now there is almost no market for the mass produced semi-literate graduates from our poorer schools. Fully half of new high school graduates can't read on the 7th grade level of yesterday and the 25% that don't finish many can't read at all - a major cause of crime because what else can they do, dead end minimum wage jobs ? The military won't take them any more. (I really believe in the military as a educational and corrections institution ) It was when a young man got into trouble it was reform school or the army. Now the Army is too picky. We should look to Europe and the training of skilled workers but are still bogged down in class, ethic, racial politics. The Upper class has abandoned it's obligations, the middle class runs scared of the competition, and the working class sinks into the under-class lumped-proletarian. So we build walled towns like the "insiders" in Panama. We become a banana republic. Haiti has one of the most poorly educated population in the world and some fine Lycee's for the very very rich. The Rich in Latin America go to USC, Harvard or Madrid. It's a tale of the lack or real opportunity for our peasants. Let them eat cake ??? Apre' moi la deluge ? Revolutions are caused by people doing well and being pushed back - like in France, Cuba, Russia - a failure of expectations, dis-illusion-ment, false promises.. Remember social warfare is to keep the poor quiet. Otto Von Bismarck and the land and factory owners of Europe created Social Security to kill off the socialist. RE: ERIC search on Values and Technology, Science and teaching TITLE New Ways of Knowledge: The Sciences, Society, and : / by Raskin, Marcus G.; And Others Pages; Fiche: Document no.: [H ABSTRACT : In this volume, physicists and social scientists challenge the bedrock of scientific thinking whose applications can prove destructive to existing social systems, and shift the debate to the need for a radical change of direction that would replace traditional "value-free" inquiry and research with a knowledge model that incorporates social responsibility, democratic principles, and comprehensive ethical standards. Presented in this book is a form of inquiry -reconstructive knowledge -concerned with the assumptions and practices of modern science and the politics of scientific discipline. Essays included are: (1) "Reconstruction and Its Knowledge Method" (Marcus Raskin); (2) "Idols of Modern Science and the Reconstruction of Knowledge" (Herbert Bernstein); (3)"Toward a Reconstructive Political Science" (Raskin, Bernstein); (4) "Exchanges on Reconstructive Knowledge"(Noam Chomsky, Raskin); (5) "Ending the Faustian Bargain (Raskin); (6) "The Human Meaning the Information Revolution" (Michael Goldhaber); (7) "The Selling of Market Economics" (Edward Herman); (8) "Semiotic Boundaries and the Politics of Meaning: Modernity on Tour--A Village in Transition" (Susan Buck-Morss); (9) "Seizing Power/Grasping Truth" (Joseph Turner); and (10) "Conclusion: A Manifesto of Reconstructive Knowledge" (Raskin). The themes of the social construction of reality, the social sciences' ability to determine fates and fortunes, the linkage between the realms of knowledge generation and of political direction, and that economics as a discipline is a rule of human organization (not nature), are included. :Concern about Ethics and Ethical Issues among Professors of Instructional Systems Design and Technology. / by Nichols, Randall; And Others Pub.Date: 1987Pages; Fiche: 11; Document no.: ED304099FOUND IN ERIC microfiche unless noted otherwise: EDRS Price - MF01/PC01 Plus Postage.[ ABSTRACT : With a growing awareness of the importance of ethical issues in the profession of educational communications and technology, he Professional Ethics Committee of the Association for Educational Communications and Technology:(AECT) decided to assess the current thinking of association members toward ethics in the field. The committee wished to conduct research in which a broad base of data might be collected that could reflect membership positions in at least three areas: (1) the degree to which members feel ethics to be important and address them; (2) specific issues deemed to be important; and (3) ways in which an ethical code might be applied. Using a nine-question open-ended questionnaire, a preliminary survey was conducted at a May 1987 meeting of 80 professors of instructional systems design and technology, many of whom were members of AECT. Answers to the responses from the 43 professors who participated in the survey were tallied and analyzed. It was found that, as a group, the respondents perceive that they address ethical issues in a variety of ways, but that more needs to be done; the range of issues identified was quite broad, ranging from the effects of technology on learners in general to the effects on whole cultures; and, although they are concerned about ethical issues, as a group they do not feel that monitoring of practicing professionals is necessary. This paper includes a copy of the questionnaire, an analysis of the responses to each question, and a summary of the results. McCaleb, Joseph L. Dean, Kevin W.[HRt] TITLE : Ethics and Communication Education: Empowering Teachers. / byMcCaleb, Joseph L.; Dean, Kevin W.Pub.Date: Document no.:J364700FOUND INCommnication Education; v n4 p410-16 Oct 1987 ABSTRACT : Argues that communication education must cultivate in teachers the capacity to respond sensitively to teaching values. Defines the responsible teacher as one who: (1) understands structure of the discipline including the relationships among communication, ethics, and morality; (2) understands students' cognitive, social, and moral development; and (3) can model selection, analysis, integration, and applications of ethical issues (NKA)Notes: Special Issue: Censorship in Education.